Scaling up success in majority Indigenous schools

Centre for Independent Studies

2021 May, 18

Scaling up success in majority Indigenous schools

I'm very pleased to be here at the CIS, the CIS has been a very great friend to our cause in Cape York Peninsula over the last two decades.

Introduction, evidence

I want to say one very brief thing about evidence; we need no more evidence about what works, the evidence has been well known about what works for children's reading and numeracy and learning generally, it is just that there has been a concerted effort to embed the known and very effective means by which children could learn in Australian schools, and it is the disadvantage that have suffered the most and I’ll have things to say about evidence there's been an evidence revolution over the last 10 years ever since John Hattie’s visible learning, but it is more than 10 years later and we're not acting on the evidence. The evidence in relation to teacher-led instruction is 50 years old. When is it that those who have opposed evidence-based teaching are going to be told to step aside and that we allow our Australian students to learn from teachers, from good teaching, from effective teaching practice?

I don’t share the anxiety that we need more evidence, aboriginal children are no different from other human children, they have the same capacity and they have the same learning mechanism of other human students, there's nothing sui generis about indigenous children they're humans, if they're taught with effective pedagogy they will learn. So those who say we need more evidence to prove what's effective with indigenous education, I think, are almost making a racial distinction, the distinctions that are valid concern context, social community context, we have to take them into account, kids coming from poverty, kids with bad hearing, kids coming from homes without books and with illiterate parents. These are all important contextual questions that bear on the capacity of kids to learn, but the fundamental mechanism for learning is human. That's why I believe that indigenous education will not be fixed up until we get education fixed up for all students particularly disadvantaged ones.

The important point that is lost about direct and explicit instruction is that they are non-categorical approaches to learning and teaching, we don't distinguish between human learners, what we will make efforts to do is address the social context from which these kids come and the cultural context in which they live, these are all very legitimate things to take into account but don't tell me that the evidence for effective instruction does not apply to indigenous learners.

21 years ago, soon after Alan Tudge joined me in Cape York, I wrote a little monograph about my convictions about indigenous policy and I recently recollected what I said about identity politics.

In 1999 I wrote:

Related to the impediments to aboriginal education which some poor ideological thinking seems to have caused, is the impediment which prescriptive identity politics represents to the development of our people. there is now a tendency for aboriginal people to be told what their identity should be, there are a lot of prescriptions about what behaviour, work, interests endeavours, writing, art, poetry, ambitions, dreams, aspirations are essentially aboriginal and those that are not. We need to seriously think about the effect of these prescriptions on the possibilities for our children, the autonomy individuality and creativity of our children should not be stifled by nonsense concepts of true identity. Such prescriptions are mostly peddled by people who are uncertain and unconfident about their own identities, our children in Cape York Peninsula must be completely confident in their identity and their right to express their identity in the way they choose. It is their values and relationships which bind them to us not the political or identity straitjackets which are imposed upon them, after all our traditional society allowed for great eccentricity of personalities and often fierce personal autonomy.

DISTAR and Direct Instruction (DI)

Let me tell you about our program in Cape York, we are in partnership with the Queensland Department of Education in relation to two small primary schools in Cape York including the school at which I was educated at Hope Vale. We have a 6 C curriculum program, the first being class and we teach literacy, numeracy and science through direct instruction and explicit instruction that is teacher-led instruction. I recently viewed a video from a correspondent who is in the audience here tonight, whom I’ve never met, who sent us footage of his parents teaching direct instruction in a state school in Wagga Wagga in 1975. That footage is what goes on in our classrooms, the teaching of the DISTAR method of literacy was in many Australian schools 45 years ago and I’ve come across many Australian teachers of that generation who taught DISTAR the early generation direct instruction program to Australian kids in many schools across the country. We could have got it right had we continued teacher-led instruction in literacy and numeracy starting in the 1970s, but the progressive educationalists pursuing the dream of John Dewey and Lev Vygotsky and all of the social constructivists in education who opposed direct instruction, won the day across Australian schools. It was why I wondered my grandfather and father were literate in both their traditional language and English far above the powers of their grandchildren and great-grandchildren, I wondered why and I started to understand this debate about the reading wars between those who favoured explicit teaching of phonics and phonemic awareness and those who said that children should be taught by teachers who see themselves as guides by the side, who are going to immerse these children in literature and books and somehow, they're going to learn the mechanics of reading.

I sided with Professor Kevin Wheldall from the MultiLit program at Macquarie University.  I said he's on the right side of this debate, let's get Kevin up to Cape York and have a trial of his method with our children. Prior to that I had been with the social constructivist, I assumed that official educators knew what they were doing, but it was the reading wars in the 2000s that opened my eyes to this debate and of course Kevin opened our eyes to what it is the kids can perform in Cape York if they're led by good teachers, all of a sudden, the light started switching on with our children. Two years into our trial with MultiLit in Cape York, Kevin told us there's an ancestor program, it's called Direct Instruction. So we went to the United States and called upon the inventor of Direct Instruction, Siegfried Engelmann, at his National Institute for Direct Instruction, that we wanted to do DI in our schools and we've been doing it ever since. DI is just good teaching, where teachers teach first and ask questions later.  The operating principle of DI articulated by Engelmann is this:  if the student has not learned, the teacher has not taught, the responsibility for the child's learning rests with the teacher and the obligation of teachers to adopt effective methods that are established in the evidence.

Let me tell you about DI. You do five lessons with the children, explicit teacher-led instruction with appropriate revisiting of the material for spaced practice, the program is based on mastery we aim for the kids to master the materials and we administer a mastery test every five lessons, so once a week the children sit a mastery test and they don't proceed to the next bit of learning until they have a 90% success in the mastery test, and the ingenious nature of the instructional design of direct instruction, it is not old style rote learning, there's a lot of practice if you want to move learning from short-term memory to long, you've got to revisit the material, but the ingenious design of Direct Instruction is about introducing examples to the kids so that the inductive logic that's built into the lesson is learned by the child, and the kid once mastering the logic is then in a position to work out what the rule is and then to generalise the rule to new examples, so it's a process of learning from examples, learning the rule and then being in a position to generalise the rule to novel examples.


We have a club program, art, music, we have a strong belief in instrumental music for the kids, we teach kids in a stage band to learn to read music and to play instruments for a school stage band. We want our children when they enter high school to have the option to pursue music and we have uncompromising ambitions for the children because we know some of them are going to be passionate about pursuing musical careers and if we don't do it in primary school, they will never have the chance in high school.


Guugu Yimithirr (Ancestral Language program)

We have a culture program, we want to teach ancestral languages to the kids, the kids learn to be to speak their own language and to be literate in their own language.


Student Education Trusts

We have a comprehensive community program where we engage parents in the first act, first and easiest act, you can get the parents engaged in, is putting money aside for their children. With three million dollars sitting in accounts for 300 kids, their parents own money, their families own money, because you set up the facility so then the parents want to put money aside for their children, there's some children with ten thousand dollars in their account, they can pay for the rugby trip away or the football boots or the excursion to Cairns, because we've said to the parents; twenty dollars a week is a thousand dollars a year, start when you're pregnant, you've got five thousand dollars in the account. We want parents to take responsibility for their children, if there's a breakfast club the parents pay for the breakfast club.

Student welfare and attendance case management

We have a case management system for the children to attend and we work very hard, we have the highest attenders in the state of Queensland at our schools, we have a Family Responsibilities Commission that mandates parents who receive welfare from the government to send their kids to school and our commission drags the parents up and says to anyone that is not sending their children to school; why should we not put a clamp on your money? That's what our Family Responsibilities Commission does.


We have a civics program; we want our children to understand their identity and their responsibilities as Australians and as Indigenous people and to grapple with these questions about identity and who they are and how they are Queenslanders in one respect and Australians in another and Cape Yorkers in another. That they have these layers of identity and they share identities with other people. The Lutheran kids at Hope Vale share identity with Bavarians in Germany, how could they not, we're all Martin Luther fanatics, if you come from Hope Vale that's part of our identity.


We have a strong focus on childhood, we understand the importance of early childhood development, might  I say one thing about it, the key issue with early childhood programs is some academic time, 20 minutes a day, you've got to furnish the kids with pre-literacy academic support, because that's not what they're getting in the household, their household might speak an ancestral language, they're not going to have the natural facility with phoenix and phonemes of English, so putting in 20 minutes a day with a pre-literacy program is the most crucial part in my view of early childhood. 20 minutes a day and you can make up for the lack of books in your home and you can make up for the lack of education of your parents, crucial to have an academic dimension and not just play in the early childhood program.


I’ve been around consultants for a very long time and they mostly get it wrong, but tonight I’m going to tell you about the work of McKinsey and how they've got so much right. Three crucially important reports McKinsey have produced over the last dozen years.


First, in 2007 where they identified what successful systems around the world have done in order to improve the outcomes for their countries.

Three very straightforward things came out of that McKinsey work in 2007;

         1) you need to get the right teachers in place, you need great           teachers,

         2) you have to have effective instruction,

         3) every child in the system has to benefit from it.

That's why we talk about our organisation as Good to Great Schools and our handle is Great teachers, Effective Instruction, Every Child. That's what a system must have the capability of delivering if it's going to advance. Very much nose on your face, but so very important to keep those three things in focus.


Secondly, in 2010 they looked at systems across the world over a period of time to work out what did these systems do to advance from poor to fair, to good, to great, to excellent. They didn't just look at where different school systems sat on that continuum but where individuals’ systems sat at a particular point in their development.

Singapore was once poor and then it became fair, then it started to become good, then it became great and now they're an excellent system, they made a journey over the last 50 years under Lee Kuan Yew and those amazing policy leaders in Singapore, they progressed across the performance spectrum and what they did at different stages of the spectrum was different, McKinsey learned, what you do to a poor school is different to what you do with a great school, the policy interventions are different at each stage and you look at this playbook, it's fantastic, if  I were minister I would look at the McKinsey 2010 playbook and say “That is my playbook”.  Guess what the poor deferred journey has, it says you've got to get bums in the seat, you've got to get the kids in the seat, they've got to attend. Secondly they need a feed, their basic needs need to be met, thirdly your teachers need to be supported in those schools with prescriptive training, fourthly they need a scripted program, they don't have great teachers, the teachers need a script in front of them to teach, that's what Singapore originally did and all of the systems that have gone through the poor to fair performance spectrum have had these common interventions, of course, if you want a school to go from great to excellent you best step back and let them work out their own journey, there's a set of prescriptions at the high performing end that actually mean that they should be unleashed.

I would urge policymakers’, members of the public, ministers, anybody interested in school reform to look at McKinsey 2010, the playbook is entirely there, including adjustment for context, adjusting these interventions according to context.


Finally, there's a third McKinsey report I want to valorise here tonight and that is their report on the PISA results of 2015 and their report in 2017. The most crucial thing in that report, they did a massive analysis of the data, the performance data in Asia, looking at these great systems in Asia that have done so well, they looked at all of the data for Australia and New Zealand and across southeast Asia and the crucial piece for me in that report is the balance between teacher-led instruction and inquiry learning. You've got to get the balance right and guess what, the balance is preponderant in favour of teacher-led instruction, you should only do a little bit of inquiry, the best systems are those systems that are favouring teacher-led instruction, that's what the evidence says, and that's what high performing systems in Southeast Asia are doing. In our programs that we design in-house at Good to Great Schools, we teach first and then we allow kids to conduct experiments and undertake inquiry activities. Can I say, there's a massive confusion in the teaching of science between the scientific inquiry and inquiry learning, they're not the same thing, and yet I see schools time and time again conflating the two things, that somehow inquiry learning is sanctioned by this idea of scientific inquiry.


Our challenge is to hit the bell curve of Australian schools and shift it rightwards, if Minister Tudge’s aim is to get our country to make a performance leap, I suggest the performance leap is we got to go from Good to Great, we're Good, we've got to get to Great.


The McKinsey evidence tells us that can be done by systems within five years, it's proven around the world that a tectonic shift in performance can be executed in five years, five to six years, is the average. If we're determined about it, we can have a great system once again and start thinking about getting to excellent, but that's our task as a nation in my view to go from Good to Great and let's do it in the next five years. How we're going to do it? We need to hit the curve and shift it one performance stage righthoods so that we no longer have any poor schools, that's got to be our goal, no schools that are poor in Australia, we should start at fair and of course, have a distribution right across to excellent, but that's got to be our goal if we don't hit the poor end of the spectrum and shift it righthood so that every Australian child can put their hand up and say “I went to a fair school, I went to a school that honoured my attendance  by serving me with the teaching that I deserved as an Australian Citizen”.


The second thing we have to do is, we're going to focus on the verb not the noun, the teaching not the teacher, the teacher will come good in time, two, three decades down the track if we ever get the universities to cooperate. That's the er, that's the noun waiting for Godot, is the noun. The thing we can change tomorrow is the teaching and if we're going to make this leap in performance over the next five years, we've got to put the spotlight squarely on the verb of teaching and sorry to say we're going to act on the evidence, evidence is in, yes there's marginal areas where we can learn more about what's effective and so on, but the current focus on evidence, a lot of people come late in the day to the evidence, I think it can be a distraction. We already know heart surgery works; do we need more evidence?

Evidence about context and what's effective in particular social and economic and learning disadvantage context, that can be useful, but don't tell me that what constitutes effective instruction is still an open question, so let's act on the evidence rather than see the future lying in building more evidence. So what do we need to do we need to make a performance shift in five years, we need to hit the bell curve in the right places. 

Eradicate Poor schools in Australia

we need to hit the Poor to Fair schools and not accept that anywhere in

Australia an Australian child is still attending a poor school, that means the 250 Indigenous schools that sit down at that bottom end of the system, we can't accept that they should continue as they are, they cannot be put in that too hard basket and left there.

Shifting the coasting middle from Fair to Good and from Good to Great

The second thing we have to do is we've got to shift the coasters in the middle and the fair schools that are always fair the good schools that are always good, you know they're not getting the good ones are not getting great and the Fair ones are not getting Good, and so we need to hit a sufficient number of those schools and show what is possible if we hit the curve in those places and enforce a shift to the right.

Leave the Great to get to Excellent

Of course, we leave the great to become excellent there's things that we can suggest and support great schools on their journey to excellence but by and large the people who run great schools just need to be left to turn their schools to excellence.

I’m sorry I’ve gone way over time but I really appreciate your indulgence this evening.

Thank you